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Please login or register. Login with username, password and session length News: Sunny, mini-thaw...Bin collections starting again. Home Help Login Register The Series 2 Club Forum > Public Section > Workshop Wisdom > Fuel octane Pages: [1] Go Down « previous next » Add bookmark | Print | Home Author Topic: Fuel octane (Read 167 times) 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. mike_cyul S2C member Swivel expert Offline Posts: 153 Location: Kingston Fuel octane « on: August 14, 2010, 04:21:31 AM » Hi there - just wondering what octane levels of present-day unleaded fues are best to use (in my case, 1960 Series II with original valves). Have three levels to choose from at the pump, but don't really know how they would effect a Landy engine. Would lower (81 here) be better?Thanks,Mike Logged 1960 SWB LHD Export; Restoration blog: http://1960landroverrestoration.blogspot.com/cyul=airport designation letters for Montreal crashbox S2C member Green Bible reader Online Posts: 7474 Location: Thames Valley Re: Fuel octane « Reply #1 on: August 14, 2010, 05:18:30 AM » It comes down to fuel cost versus the MPG you'll achieve. The 7:1 CR 2 1/4 petrol was designed to run on fuel as low as 75 octane with ignition timing at TDC. 6 before TDC timing is intended for 90 octane. You takes your choice according to how much cheaper or dearer one fuel is compared to the others. Low octane fuels running late timing will give you a bit less performance. If the engine is carboned up, the low octane stuff may well detonate easily when hot under load. To really benefit from the economy achievable from using higher octane fuels you'd need to have the head skimmed to increase it's CR a bit closer to 8:1. Logged Series 2 - British engineering at it's best! mike_cyul S2C member Swivel expert Offline Posts: 153 Location: Kingston Re: Fuel octane « Reply #2 on: August 14, 2010, 02:40:36 PM » Thanks! So, if I understand correctly, ignition timing can be adjusted to the fuel octane one is using. Is there a chart somewhere that gives the range?Mike Logged crashbox S2C member Green Bible reader Online Posts: 7474 Location: Thames Valley Re: Fuel octane « Reply #3 on: August 14, 2010, 05:20:07 PM » This stuff is in the workshop manual and owners handbooks. The manual quotes 3 before TDC for "regular" fuels and 6 before TDC for "premium" fuels. You have to remember that fuel octane in Europe were lower when these engines were designed than they are now, so regular and premium don't really mean the same things. I know fuel octane in North America has historically been lower than in Europe, the same goes for diesel fuel cetane gradings.If you're running on absolute *&%^$ fuel (say diesel contaminated drainings), set it to TDC, 6 before for 90 octane, and maybe 3 before for 80-something octane. That's just a ball park figure to start with. Give the motor a road test and play around until you find the best timing for your fuel and your individual engine. Do this with a good hot engine not cold as the eng temp affects the timing requirements for a given octane. When my '60 was on the road I first used to run it at 8 before TDC static timing on 91 Octane UK 2 star leaded petrol - which you can't get now here as it's all 95 octane Unleaded.If you've got the original distributor (should be a Lucas DM2 spec #40609 on yours) it'll have a knurled octane selector thumbwheel for advancing and retarding the ignition to compensate for different fuel and running conditions. If you set that adjuster in the centre position before you time up the dissy, it'll allow you about 2 1/2 degrees adjustment either way without having to get spanners out and move the whole dissy body in the engine. You should find that is enough adjustment if you set the engine to about the timings I've mentioned to start with according to your fuel octane. Logged mike_cyul S2C member Swivel expert Offline Posts: 153 Location: Kingston Re: Fuel octane « Reply #4 on: August 15, 2010, 01:35:37 AM » Thanks again. Interesting stuff. The distributor has been replaced on mine, but as I think the wiring could use an overhaul in any case, the original type may just show up again if I can find one.Mike Logged crashbox S2C member Green Bible reader Online Posts: 7474 Location: Thames Valley Re: Fuel octane « Reply #5 on: August 15, 2010, 08:45:20 AM » The next distributor spec used was #40944, which is a later 25D4 model not a DM2. Then there was a later one still used on the Series 3, still with the octane adjuster, the number of which eludes me. I've just taken one out of a scrap vehicle, so I could go and dig it out if you wanted to know what your one was and it's not a 40944.The advance curves are slightly different on the later dissys, but then on the late 2a/3 engines the compression ratio was also increased. I found that my '60 went like a rocket by LR standards, amazing considering the high mileage on the engine. I had the original DM2 dissy and the original solid copper cored HT leads with acorn nut fittings, which seemed to deliver a really powerful spark. Logged Pages: [1] Go Up Add bookmark | Print | Home « previous next » Jump to: If anyone has concerns about any of the postings here, please contact the Forum Administrator. 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